Some of y’all really think the reason we don’t worship the s/n/a/k/e is because kemetics hate, like, chaos/death/violent/destructive Gods… which is hilarious considering the Gods we worship.
Look at Set, God of Chaos! The huge number of funerary and death Gods we love and worship! Sekhmet, Whose main myth involves Her becoming overwhelmed with bloodlust! All of the many Gods with a war aspect!
the s/n/a/k/e isn’t chaos, or death, or violence, or destruction. All of those things can have their place in upholding Maat. The s/n/a/k/e is nothing. It is uncreation. It is a void and it seeks to swallow every good thing- every thing at all. It is and always has been fought against. Every God fights against it. Ra, Set, Sekhmet, Ma’ahes, Wesir, even the ‘gentle’ Gods like Bast or Hethert. All of Them seek to dilute its power, to tear it into pieces and scatter it so far it cannot come together again. It doesn’t have a motive or a sad backstory or anything to justify why it does this. it merely is. and seeks to make everything not be.
Hey, if you think it’s appropriate to refer to Apep as a “thing,” with ‘it’ pronouns, or say he’s not a god, please block me. If you’re so worried about other people’s religions, maybe you should do some soul searching about why you have such negative feelings, because I guarantee you that the gods wouldn’t bother with this petty bullshit. I know my patron would smack the shit out of me if I was acting like how y’all do about Apep.
Additionally if you shame people for their choice of deities to worship just because they’re evil, destroyers or chaotic, block me. If they want to follow that path, even if it’s against all your personal faith, honey it’s none of your goddamn business. You have no right to shit talk the gods, divine entities, or their devotees just because you feel you’re doing your own deities a favor. Fucking get a petty level check and get those lemons outta your ass 👌
Idk if y’all missed Kemetic induction day, but A/p/e/p isn’t a Netjer (God), CERTAINLY isn’t in any way ‘divine’ and his worship (shudders) has no place in the Kemetic community or any well-meaning pagan circles. Just so we’re clear, IT is literally Uncreated – it doesn’t technically even exist so, like, giving it pronouns and referring to it as a ‘thing’ seems pretty generous imo. But if ppl wanna worship a literal unfeeling, unthinking black hole thats only drive is to tear their entire world apart in front of them, then I can’t really stop them from doing that. Just do it somewhere far away from me. Enjoy your endless void of terror and darkness I guess – different strokes for different folks indeed.
tl;dr – a/p/e/p isn’t some misunderstood or demonized deity (Unless you’re reading some of the weird, badly researched/ translated sources that conflate him with Seth). To us Kemetics, worshiping it is essentially wishing a slow and painful death upon each and every one of us. Not sure how opposing that is petty, but go on I guess.
Mmm, writes post about respecting other peoples religions…immediately disrespects other peoples beliefs and religions…thats some tasty hypocrisy. Delicious.
Speaking of petty bullshit…That comment…prime.
Just for extra context… @deadlydeamonflashmob was just trying to give you some context to this entity and some information as to why this entity isn’t worshiped and why it’s railed against, but be a dick I guess.
How is me saying I don’t care about ranting being disrespectful of beliefs? Pff. You’re reaching. I know of people who worship Apep and I know of people who worship other gods of destruction and chaos in various religious. The Tumblr Kemetic community just seems to have a stick up their ass over individuality. Shrugs.
Oh honey…in your original vagueblog:
“If you’re so worried about other people’s religions, maybe you should do some soul searching about why you have such negative feelings, because I guarantee you that the gods wouldn’t bother with this petty bullshit.“
You’re directly saying kemetics believing the Wyrm being a horrid entity of Uncreation, the force of returning everything to before matter and energy, before the big bang…is “petty bullshit”.
You’re directly saying kemetics believing that this thing should not be worshiped because it’s the worst evil imaginable, is petty bullshit.
The Wyrm wants to tear your soul apart and eat it like an hors
d’oeuvre. This is not “petty bullshit”, it’s a fundamental point of our
religion, which you’re disrespecting by unironically telling us we
shouldn’t talk about how evil it is…HOOONEYYYYY!!!
You’re saying, kemetics offering you information about WHAT it is and WHY its bad so you can make an informed decision…is petty bullshit. Honey, HHOOONEYYY...No. You literally sat there and tried to tell us we are wrong about our religion. Because believing what we believe is somehow “inappropriate”. Child, sit down.
But lets look at the other part…
“ I know my patron would smack the shit out of me if I was acting like how y’all do about Apep.“
Mmmm…delicious.
According to your blog your patron is Fenrir, you know what, I know plenty of people who worship Fenrir and he’s a good guy to them…but I would hope they’d encourage you to not no near the universe negating blob of nothingness…I would hope they care about you enough to not encourage you to interact with it.
The Wyrm isn’t like Fenrir. It wasn’t a loyal member of the pantheon whom the pantheon betrayed and sealed away over a prophecy. It came into being at the same time as Atum (the embodiment and god of being, creation, substance). The Wyrm is his polar opposite and is constantly trying to destroy him.
I recommend this lovely article about the Wyrm if you are interested in learning about it. ( Apophis: On the Origin, Name, and Nature of an Ancient Egyptian Anti-God by Ludwig Morenz
). It’s a good article.
“You’re reaching.“
Mmmm, not a reach my dude, friend, pal. Not a reach. I’m just informed.
You’re conflating the Wyrm with other “gods of destruction” which is not what it is, this is simply a point of accuracy. It’s an “Anti-God”, if you want to classify it.
All anyone said was “You shouldn’t worship it but whatever, do what you want”. But here you are going off XD. This has nothing to do with individuality, just concerned people who know what they are talking about, giving ya fair warning, and trying to offer some education on this entity you want to die on a hill for. But hey, do what you want, we’re just trying to inform you, its a bad idea and maybe we know what we’re talking about here.
“The Tumblr Kemetic community just seems to have a stick up their ass over individuality.“
Ooooh child, this is petty. Again, all anyone said is you shouldn’t …not you can’t. So calm down, we aren’t your parents telling you weed is bad mmkay. Now, there are some topics the kemetic community can be stuffy about but we all seem to agree that the Wyrm is not a good guy. Every single one of us is individual, and we all have our own practices, done our own ways. So I dunno where you get this bullshit “such cultish unindividualzez” crapola from.
“More cultish then christians”, oh child, that’s adorable. While the Christian concepts of demons, evil, and Satan/Lucifer all come from demonizing former Caananite gods and creatures…That’s not the territory we are in here. If you’re going to make some one off snarky comment, at least be accurate otherwise it’s embarrassing.
Also no, no one’s “sending their buddies after you”, I just saw my friend send you some info and gently suggest that, you shouldn’t worship it, and you wanted to be a dick. But whatever, be a dick I guess.
and before anyone tries to compare the worship of a/p/o/o/p to the worship of Satan, im gonna stop you right the fuck there. im a satanist in addition to being a kemetic, and those two entities and their history are absolutely nothing alike. i understand the interest in “counter religions”, but the s/n/a/k/e literally has nothing going for i/t, whereas Satan has a deep recorded history of kindness, compassion, and righteousness. the very meaning behind the existence of these two entities are totally different and hardly comparable in any way.
so yeah i just wanted to stop yall before you even think about disrespecting the Divine Lord Satan. peace out lads.
I’m not a Satanist personally but I have a great deal of respect for them.
part of why the whole trend of wanting to honor a/pep confuses me as well as makes me uncomfortable is that it’s really not comparable to, say, a doomsday entity that is supposed to start an apocalypse that leads to a new world (i.e. Fenrir Wolf) or an entity that has strong associations with destruction and evil (i.e. Set); the apocalypse as the ancient Egyptians percieved it wasn’t just an end to a way of life, or the extinction of the human race, or even just the destruction of our planet. it was more of a “return to primordial goop” that we as modern people might compare to the state of the universe before the Big Bang
the best way i can think of to describe it would be that while destruction as we think of it is moving atoms that were previously making up objects until they are no longer in the same pattern -turning a building into rubble- the kind of complete nullification a/pep represents is closer to said atoms ceasing to exist altogether
(also i kinda think people are only doing it because all they know about A/pep and its place in our mythologies is a couple posts on tumblr where some fucko is going on about “forbidden knowledge” and honoring death and decay without knowing they’re talking out of their ass) (or they’re Wiccan/eclectic and taking entities completely out of their cultural context which is annoying and dangerous for them moreso than it is a moral issue in this situation….but still annoying)
I’m just gonna keep saying this because I get asked this periodically and really thought I had this in my FAQ:
Slaves did not build the Pyramids. That is a misconception first put forward by Herodotus – who claimed Khufu kidnapped 100,000 people to work on the Pyramids (he also claimed Khufu whored out his daughter…but Khufu didn’t have a daughter), and then Hollywood combined it with the Exodus story where the Jewish folk were enslaved by Pharaoh to create the myth that slaves built the Pyramids. It’s not feasible that 100,000 people would be simultaneously enslaved and working on the Pyramids at the same time. Where are you keeping them for a start? How do you even police 100,000 enslaved people in one location? How do you stop them just getting in a boat at night and sailing up the Nile to freedom?
Who did build the Pyramids?
Officials were sent out to all parts of Egypt to ask various single men to join the effort to build Pharaoh’s Pyramid (easier not to have families if you’re leaving for 20 years). This was considered an honour because Pharaoh was a literal god at this point in Egyptian history. Work for the god on his project? Excellent.
So the guys travelled to the Giza plateau and began building the Pyramid. Quarrying stone from the nearby limestone quarries, or quarrying it near the Red Sea and transporting it via canals to Giza. The workers were paid in bread and beer. Egypt was a non monetary economy, which means they don’t have coins so they barter with various commodities. Food is payment. They didn’t really ‘receive’ this payment in bulk form, what would happen is that they would be fed by the women who also came to the Pyramid building site. These folks lived in what we now know as the Giza Workers Village which held about 20,000 people (only 5000 were permanent salaried workers, the other 15,000 were seasonal and different workers turned up every year). Men would meet women while working there and they’d settle down and have a family who also lived in the village. We have their graves that show us that ailments were well looked after by an onsite doctor and not just hastily repaired or not allowed to heal. More on this can be found here, here, here, and here.
Finally, were the guys who built the Pyramids were divided into two groups who liked to graffiti their group names onto the insides of the Pyramids: One – the Friends of Menkaure, and Two – The Drunkards of Khufu. Here’s the graffiti:
Slaves don’t generally call their gang ‘drunkards of Khufu’. That name is more ‘stag night in Magaluf’ than ‘enslaved by Pharaoh for 20 years’ so I’d say they were proud of their work.
Hi, same person that made the anti-BLM collage here. Thought I’d give an update with actual links and proof here for why I don’t support the motherfuckers. I put multiple sources for some just in case things get deleted. I’m sure there’s a lot more, but these are just some of the highlights.
Homophobia
Stopping Toronto Pride 2016 To Make Bullshit Demands & Claim Erasure Of Minorities (1, 2, 3)
Hijacking The Orlando Pulse Shooting Vigil & Kicking Out Gays To Bitch About White People (1, 2, 3)
Stopping D.C./Capital Pride 2017 Because Gay Cops Attended (1, 2, 3)
Pulls Out Of San Francisco Pride Because Of Police Protection Detail (1, 2, 3)
Creates Counter-March To Protest Vancouver Pride Allowing A Minimal Police Presence (1, 2, 3)
Here’s why white people are terrible and should go-POOF:
HISTORY
So, going by your logic, a small group of homophobic, antisemitic, black people represent all black people? On a scale of 1 to 10, how low-expectation are you? Also, American history is not all history. You can find dirt on every race if you look far back enough. No one is exempt.
Nah. It’s just white People are horrible and should go. Instead of speaking on things in other communities speak on your own. Especially when you have more problems than them.
Goldnwulf 