Please share with your friendly neighborhood winterfell dad
It is actually quite simple, if Ned doesn’t die there is peace bc the crown would be aligned with the North, the Westerlands, the Stormlands, thanks to the fact that Ned is married to a Tully the Riverlands and Ned also raised the heir to the Iron Isles which means almost all great houses are somehow tied together. Furthermore the Septa of Balore wouldn’t explode bc with Ned in the capital Cersei couldn’t do stupid stuff like arming the faith militant… so yeah, his death basically ruined the world
but we also run into the problem of Jon at the wall. Since there is no war of the five kings, Stannis doesn’t die. Mel wouldn’t have need to go to the Wall and save Jon. Jon dies. Unless Mel goes to the wall cuz the Lord of Light sends here there in the first place, nor would Dadvos be there and a part of Jon’s lil party. Euron may still prove an issue for the Greyjoys….so it’d be interesting to see what would happen there. Would Yara ask Theon for help and in turn getting help from say Starks? I feel like there is still a few things that are odd and like not fully dependent on Ned’s death or non death…
Robb’s Lord of Winterfell so Ramsay/Roose would’t have taken it over…I mean I guess they could still try to but I doubt it. Arya wouldn’t have met Gendry like she did….(maybe they still do cuz Ned’s knows he’s Robert’s son and Arya wouldn’t become a faceless man…)
Mainly for one of the myths involving Isis or Horus and I don’t know I just??? nope I don’t feel comfortable/safe with Him.
It may not be a great idea to post this in the general kemetic tag, as it’s a bit awkward to see someone posting things about a deity you love in a way that implies negative things. (Eg., that seth is evil in this case).
However, with Seth, he is an important figure amongst the Netjeru. Many of the gods have done things that when we take out of context (eg., what we do when we look at the myths in a modern perspective) that we see as bad. However, if you do not try to view the gods in a way that the Ancients would have, you are going to have to exclude a fair number of the pantheon, let alone, a lot of pagan gods.
For the Netjeru, off the top of my hand, Sekhmet (murder), Seth (rape/murder), Geb (rape), Osiris (torture -> Set, Horit), Isis (torture -> Horit), Anubis (Murder and skinning of Set in the form of a leopard). If you are willing to put in the leg work, these texts explain the good side of Seth, and the first one explains how he was before he was demonized: Seth, A Misrepresented God in the Egyptian Pantheon? Te Velde’s Seth, God of Confusion, Seth, God of Power and Might.
Seth plays an important role now protecting Re and the other Netjeru from the evil serpent A//phofis. He’s the only one strong enough to stop the serpent.
He was demonized after the Hyksos were driven out. They had adopted him as their god and it did not sit well with the population, and the Greeks did not help much by comparing him to Typhon. Again, Seth, A Misrepresented God in the Egyptian Pantheon explains it pretty well.
Before that many Kings and royal women would make mention to Seth & Horus uniting together to serve as both divine kings.
The most famous of these kings, the Ramesses family took Set as their patron god. Seti means “man of Set.”
He even answered a King’s prayers (to repel invaders) and saved another goddess.
Complete List of Ancient Gods and Godesses
He’s also known to help the dead in the form of a ladder.
SET WAS SAID TO BE A FRIEND OF THE DEAD, HELPING THEM TO ASCEND TO HEAVEN ON HIS LADDER (MAQET), AND THE CROWNER OF PHARAOHS AND LEADER OF WARRIORS. SET BECAME THE PATRON DEITY OF SOLDIERS, WHO OFTEN WORE SET AMULETS MADE OF BRONZE OR FAIENCE, HOPING TO ACQUIRE SET’S STRENGTH AND PROTECTION. THE WARRIOR-KING TUTHMOSIS III CALLED HIMSELF “BELOVED OF SET.” SET WAS THOUGHT TO BE THE LORD OF METALS – IRON, THE HARDEST METAL KNOWN TO THE EGYPTIANS, WAS CALLED THE “BONES OF SET.” SET WAS INVOKED FOR FERTILITY – HE OFTEN APPEARS ON UTERINE AMULETS TO EITHER OPEN OR CLOSE THE WOMB. LIKE ANUBIS, THE WORSHIP OF SET PREDATES THAT OF BOTH HORUS AND OSIRIS.
Assman, Mind of Egypt. Seth & Horus working together. They fight the evil serpent together too.
Te Velde, Seth, God of Confusion.
Also, please note the last paragraph, where a queen takes the title of Horus-Seth.
I’m not trying to attack you, but when someone posts things about gods it hits a sore spot for me. I took the time to write this up and find the pictures for you, not to embarass you but to try and show you a different side of Seth that I don’t think you’ve seen.
A solid defense of Set!
I might add for op: you’ve expressed discomfort with the mythology before. If this is not something you’re able to work through, this might not be the right path for you.
There are certain themes in mythology that I am uncomfortable with not mythology as a whole. There was a lovely response here that soothed my concerns with such things.
It upsets me to see someone say it might not be the right path for me because I expressed certain discomfort in some themes in it. I also expressed I really want to learn more and work through it. Which, because of some responses, has certainly helped.
I’d like to emphasis the last point on the thread I posted which states I am allowed to feel uncomfortable with certain deities. And Seth is one of them, though i do respect his role definitely.
Set made me uncomfortable at first too and now he’s super important to me. Perhaps you’ll work through it, perhaps not. Either way is perfectly fine. It takes time to explore a new religion and the feelings it brings, keep on learning and see where it may lead. 🙂
This whole post makes my heart sing. 💖💖. I’m so glad it popped up on my dash. I now have a great reference post to share with people who give me that “isn’t Set bad?” when I tell them I work with Him. B L E S S.
Id like to also point out to the lovely OP that you’re completely valid in your feelings no matter the deity. Don’t let anyone else tell you otherwise. Just because you’re uncomfortable with a deity of the pantheon, doesn’t mean it’s the wrong path, either. You don’t have to work with Set to work with others in the pantheon. (That would essentially mean that some of us were in the wrong path, too! Myself included, and I know it’s far from the wrong path. You know yourself best. 💖💖)
I equate Him with The Tower card in the tarot—as I’m sure others do as well. It’s a scary card but it represents much needed change to help better your growth. So essentially, it’s not all bad. Set represents change, and change can be quite uncomfortable. It’s totally fair to feel the way you do.
As long as there’s respect—which, you said you do—I don’t see a problem with how uncomfortable you are. Maybe one day, it’ll change. 😉😉
It doesn’t happen like that. You don’t just wake up one day and find that everything has worked itself out. You must get out of bed, morning after morning, and make a conscious effort to control the circumstances of that given day. You must learn to handle your issues with grace because you respect what they are attempting to teach you. You must drown your insecurities slowly, one self-realization at a time. You must allow yourself to feel the fear bubbling just beneath your skin but you must never allow it the satisfaction of crippling you; grit your teeth and march on. You see, they never tell you how hard these things will be. This fight to reclaim yourself is not easy or straightforward but, my god, is it necessary.
Viserys held his scoff as best he could. A commoner? How dare this welp call him such! He was a King! The rightful heir to his father’s throne, not this Baratheon spawn of the usurper. Viserys glanced behind him and around him. His own Kingsguard surrounded him, a mix of Unsullied and what of the Sand Snakes survived; Elia, Loreza and Sarella Sand. He had been informed by the pretenders Uncle about her connections to the other Great Houses and Viserys had hoped for an easy win. But it seemed like this would require much more tact then he had hoped for.
The Targaryen heir gave a bow, low enough to hopefully please the dark haired woman. “I know there has been strife between our houses, but perhaps we can come to some sort of…agreement, arrangements of sorts.” It wasn’t what he wanted, but it was advised upon him by his and Daenerys’s advisors.
Viserys stepped forward as he spoke, showing he was unarmed and his only way of attacking would be to call his guard on her and her men. “surely we can talk like civil adults who want the same thing. Peace. You have many houses under you, my sister and I hold the last pieces you need in the Seven Kingdoms. Tyrells, Martells, Greyjoy, Tyrion Lannister is on our side as well.”
He hated the idea of a political marriage, especially with one such as her, not to say she wasn’t attractive, but given who she was and who he was….Viserys held the idea to be begrudging. “Surely we wouldn’t want more bloodshed here this very throne room.” After he spoke, there was a sound of a thump upon the keep itself, from his dragon, Rhaellion. “Besides, if you do decide to end my life, you will have my dragon as well as my sister, her dragons to contend with and the rest of our armies” It wasn’t a threat, but more of a warning/suggestion.
“Do you know why Aegon forged the throne from swords? He believed that no king should ever sit comfortably in his power. With prospects like this who would want to rule?”
“Who indeed”
“It’s simple really. If one gets to comfortable with power, they lose sight of what they have and should not have. Power is something the can corrupt very easily. It’s hard to obtain and once you have it…You don’t want to let it go after you’ve tasted something so sweet.”
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Lord?
First I’m knighted and now I’m a lord…
What’s next? King Bronn of the Blackwater, no, just King Bronn Blackwater…
“Aye, that he is. He may not be much of a looker but he’s from a well respected and great house.” Bronn eyed the girl carefully before he continued. “Won’t have to worry about raising babes anytime soon either. Seems the Gods are giving you some good in all this bad” He tried to be sympathetic towards her situation best he could before taking a small sip from his goblet. “You and Margaery Tyrell seem to be gettin along pretty well.”
Sansa purses her lips together about Bronn’s statement. “Perhaps I don’t want any babies to raise.” Her blue eyes flick up from her embroidery work for a moment. “Queen Margaery and I have found friendship in one another, we’re both from far off places and though Winterfell and High Garden are very different we share the same homesickness.”
Bronn quirked an eyebrow at the statement. “Don’t catch any Lord hearing you say that.” He cautioned. Honestly, Bronn could care less what she did or did not do but he knew how things worked, he knew how Nobles were. “Remember, most highborns such as yourself are seen as ways to get heirs, bargaining chips in wars and treaties. You don’t always get your way.”
He knew what he was implying wasn’t the most proper thing to be saying to a Lady like Sansa, but he figured she’d better find out this way then the worst and hard way. “That’s good to hear. Friends are good to have. Though, I’m sad to say I’ve quite forgotten what it feels like to be homesick. Can’t miss what you don’t have.“ He shrugged as he swirled his goblet absentmindedly.
Goldnwulf 